I am not Malawian – Zambian President says amidst doubts of his citizenship

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Zambia President Edgar Lungu who is being accused of showing dictatorial tendencies has dismissed reports that he is originally Malawian.

According to a Zambian publication Kitwe Times some quarters have alleged that Lungu is not a Zambian but a Malawian.

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Lungu denies being a Malawian.

However, Lungu’s Spokesman Amos Chanda dismissed the rumours.

Appearing on a local TV programme dubbed  “Oxygen of Democracy”, Chanda described a question by the host on Lungu’s citizenship as absurd.

When the presenter insisted that an opposition party leader in the country Mike Mulongoti has gone public saying President Lungu is not a Zambian, Chanda said people should not pay attention to disgruntled politicians like him.

“That is absurd, it is just in the interest of freedom of speech why I have allowed you to ask me that question. President Lungu is from Petauke (in Eastern Zambia),” he said.

 

 

 

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  1. Guys I appreciate that you follow history and you know it better. Kenneth Kaunda the former president ov Zembo, was frm Mpamba in Nkhata – bay. As it is said.

  2. VERY VERY INTERESTING,,,,
    Indeed,Malawians and Zambians We’re One”Sharing One Father & One Mother”
    We’re Bloodline Connected by Birth & Spiritual!

    During the Ancient of Days,,,, if We go Deep with Our Spiritual Overstanding,,,From Abraham,Isaac & Grand – Pah Jacob,,,Our Great Tribes Formed!

    Our Grand Mother”RACHEL” gave Birth to Two Handsome Well Polited Sons”Joseph & Benjamin”(MALAWIAN/ZAMBIAN)

    Among all the Tribes of Israel/Jacob”Our Grand-Pa Jacob had HIS own Favourite Sons whom He used to Admire due to Their Intelligence,Humbleness,Strength & Leadership!
    Out of 12 Sons of Jacob,,, JUDAH”ITIOPIAN”
    JOSEPH” MALAWIAN”
    BENJAMIN” ZAMBIAN”
    RUBEN”ZIMBABWEAN”
    LEVI”TANZANIAN ”
    Isakala”Mozambican”
    ZEBRON” AZANIAN/ZULU’S”
    After Sharing de Fathers & Mothers,,,,, Our Kingdoms formed,,whereby JUDAH,Joseph,Benjamin & Ruben Share the Direct Kingdom!

    Examples,,,,Think more about the Mberwa 1 to the Current Mberwa 4th Whom both are Presented in Malawi & Zambia!
    What about the Chewa Kingdom & The ZULU Kingdom from Both Malawi,Zambia & Azania,,,,

    WE’RE ONE BLOOD & ONE KINGDOM!

  3. So what? Nothing to be proud of, he is not bringing anything to malawi. He didnt even build ahouse in malawi and you are busy entertaining he is amalawian. Zazii

  4. Honestly,he is not Malawian. His parents might be connected to Malawian background but the fact that he was born in Zambia is Zambian.

  5. Malawi and Zambia are historically known for out sourcing leaders. Kamuzu was from Ghana. Bakili Muluzu, Joyce Banda, Bingu and Peter Mutharika are all Mozambicans.

  6. Come on, Zambians, don’t act as if you’ve never been ruled by a Malawian before. We, Malawians, won’t complain if a Zambian comes to rule us, coz we are one people. Our borders were created by Europeans without our consent

  7. So what ? Our great grannies came from Malawi but who cares. We don’t even know where exactly but we were born in Zambia and we are therefore Zambians. We can’t deny the Malawi connection

  8. Edgar is a Zambian by birth although his “roots “maybe traced in Malawi.therefore, we can not doubt his citizenship. Wat we can put on the table is his dictatorship tendencies at the moment.

  9. Kikkii who can accept that am Amalawian mavuto ake amenewa.Pochoka ku drc ena anapita ku Zimbabwe ena ku Malawi ena anatsalira ku Zambia,dxiko lilibe mwinimwini tonse ndiwobwera moni.Koma upresident Atumbuka ndi Achewa iwalani zimenezo mudziwe Lero.

  10. Edgar Lungu is a Zambian citizen regardless where his parents originated from. Born and educated in Zambia why more complaints now .What i have noted is surrounded by jealous politicians.

  11. Edgar Lungu is a Zambian citizen regardless where his parents originated from. Born and educated in Zambia why more complaints now .What i have noted is surrounded by jealous politicians.

  12. zambia and malawi are sister countries the only true zambians are soli and early settlers are tongas who came from east africa rwanda the rest our forefathers are not from zambia but congo and south africa

    • Barack Obama,s mom was white American and he was born in America and not Kenya
      .get your shot straight.you don’t know how the American justice works.

  13. He is a pure Zambia citizen not Malawian why is it to say Malawi? Even Mugabe, Kenneth kaunda also they said from Malawi whyyyy?

  14. What’s the main issue here? So when I will become a leader, I will be also called a Malawian isn’t. We are all one.

  15. Thats not big deal. In Malawi we had kamuzu as president for 31 years yet he came from Ghana. US had obama from Kenya and so on. Let lungu rule

    • Bodza nanani zomveka makolo ake mumawadziwa Ku Ghana ko? Munavapo kuti alindi azibale Ku Ghana? Bwanji azibale ake Aku Ghana sanabwere Ku Malawi? Osakamba zinthu zopanda umboni.

  16. The real issue here is boundaries: The real former boundary between Malawi & Zambia was the river LUANGWA: Therefore all the people to the EAST of that river were & are ACHEWA,ANGONI, ACHIPETA,ATUMBUKA etc. and belonged to NYASALAND!! That is why customs & traditions of that part of Zambia are all the same of those in MALAWI: Now when we come to the modern artificial boundary, true let’s agree to recognise them as ZAMBIAN CITIZENS BONAFIDE TO ZAMBIAN CONSTITUTION, & LUNGU IS RIGHT & CORRECT TO DENY THAT HE IS NOT A MALAWIAN THOUGH DNA MAY REVEAL HIM TO B SO!! REMEMBER NOT TO MEDDLE IN OTHER SOVEREIGN COUNTRY’S POLITICS: THEY HAD THEIR FIRST PRESIDENT DR. DAVID KENNETH KAUNDA, IT WAS THE SAME CHORUS!! THEY R NOT FAR-AWAY FROM MALAWIAN IDEOLOGY, BECAUSE IN MALAWI ALL PRESIDENTS WE HAVE HAD NONE HAS BEEN A MALAWIA, EITHER FROM GHANA OR MOZAMBIQUE: INDEED THUS POLITICS AT ITS BEST!!!

    • Yes the truth is needed, all Zambians in the east are Malawians my friend if you can go to Lundazi district of Zambia is only Tumbukas go to Chama and Uyombe same thing you speak Tumbuka like you are in Mzimba, Rumphi etc Lundazi is a Tumbuka district but is base in Zambia, what about Chipata is same like Mchinji too, now my quastion is why Malawi is sleeping like this every body is just stealing our land now……..Tanzania start to provoke us on lake issue now then we will surrend to it

    • BROTHER M.T. GONDWE! INDEED THE DEMACATION OF BOUNDARIES DURING THE PARTITION OF AFRICA WAS GOOD FOR OUR NEIBHOURS BECAUSE THE COLONIAL MASTERS WANTED MINERALS FROM THOSE COUNTRIES, LEAVING NYASALAND WITH FRESH WATERS OF LAKE MALAWI & ITS PEOPLE AS THE LABOUR-FORCE TO WORK IN THOSE COUNTRIES!! ON LAKE MALAWI ROW BETWEEN MW & TZ: I TAKE IT TO B THE SOURCE PROBLEM OF UNITED-NATIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAY,WHERE FRESH WATERS IS BETWEEN COUNTRIES, THEN THE MERIDIAN LINE SHOULD B THE BOUNDARY!! BUT LAKE MALAWI’S BOUNDARY IS WITH THE ANGLO-GERMAN TREATY OF 1890, THIS IS BEFORE THE U.N. WAS FOUNDED: THEREFORE THE PROVOCATIVE AGENDA OF TANZANIA IS COMPLETELY UN-WARANTED & PAVES THE WAY OF SHADING BLOOD OF AN INNOCENT PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF DROPPING BEHIND THE TREATY!! THE A.U. RECOGNISES BOUNDARIES WHICH WERE THERE SINCE INDEPENDENCE, WHILE TZ DRAWS HER OWN BOUNDARY ON LAKE MALAWI: INDEED, THIS IS PROVOCATIVE, AGRESSIVE & LACK OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE TO DISCERN THE TRUTH & WRONG!! SUCH IS AFRICAN-RULE!!!

  17. Kodi Zambia and Malawi timasiyana chiyani? We share almost everything starting from currency to language, traditional dances, etc ndi malire chabe amatisiyanitsa koma kunakakhala bwino likanangokhala dziko likanakhala limodzi

  18. hie everyone!
    Edger Lungu is a Malawian i would like to make this declaration.
    you need to recall about Kaunda he grew up in Zambia n get education there….still he doesn’t change the citizenship why not Edger?

  19. If they say so in Zambia then it confirms what Dr. H. Kamuzu Banda used to say that the boundary between Malawi and Zambia is Luangwa River. Let them surrender that part of the country to us which includes Lundazi area as well.

  20. ZAMBIANS CAN NOT RULE THEMSELVES WITHOUT US MALAWIAN.SINCE THEIR INDEPENDENCE WE HAVE BEEN THEIR RULERS.I WILL COME SOME DAY TO RULE ZAMBIA AS WELL.

  21. Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia, Nyasaland, people ended up living permanently where they had there permanent work places. It might be true that the man’s parents originated from Northern Malawi to the Copperbelt during the federation years of the 3 countries.

  22. Kaunda, Lungu, Banda, Bakili these tribe is frm malawi, Bingu was not a Zimbabwean was amalawian, Peter muthalika also is amalawian people thy think that there frm Zimbabwe no Bingu was married alady frm Zimbabwe so some people thy think that was coming frm Zimbabwe is not true the name wamuthalika is alomwe name is not shonna name

  23. Everyone who shows bad leadership tendencies in their country this southern part of Africa is made to be from Malawi eventually. Mudzifunse a Malawi why?

  24. There’s nothing new there, for years they were ruled by a Malawian ……it’s just history repeating itself

  25. Malawi the warm heart of Africa. Zimbabwe got Malawian president same like Mozambique, Zambia ….look at the Vice president of Tanzania is also a Malawian kkkkkkkkk

  26. Hahahaha why fighting for something that u know already, malawi n zambia was one at first, but becoz of Westerners are the ones who came n divide it ,thats why we sharing , mother languages, like chewa, tumbuka, tonga, nkhonde just to mention few , so why fighting brothers n sisters? Lets just live in peace , after all we are one africa

  27. Even Kamuzu idon’t think he was a real Malawian bt money n power made him to rule us for Lungu’s case he is truely a Malawian by tribe coz his parents are Malawians he himself is a true Zambian by birth.It applies to kaunda,chissano,nyerere,mugabe,obama so let it be blessed is mama Malawi 4 producing presidents to rule beyond our boarders

  28. There is no way Zambia and Malawi can be separated. We are one, we share tongue and tone. We share culture and tradition. We share food and foot. Everything in Zambia is either Zambian or Malawian. Zambia is indeed Malawi. Malawi is Zambia. Kaunda was accused of being Malawian, so was Lupia Banda, so is Lungu and so is everybody else. Kkkkkkk…. Mugabe is being accused of being Malawian, so was Mwalimu Julius Nyerere, so was Mobutu Maseko Joseph, so was Chisano…..kkkkkk the list is not least. Everybody and every president in the Region is Malawian. I am proud of that..

  29. Oky Northerners Are Failing To Rule This Country But N Zambia Things Are Workng A Plea To Malawians Give The Northerners A Chance Things Will Work 4 The Better Zambias Economy Z On Track Give Us A Chance U Will Never Regrete As To Edgar Ur A True Malawian Come Back Home

  30. And I like this, the greatest of them all….

    Robert Gabriel Mugabe was born to a Malawian father,
    Gabriel Matibili, and a Shona mother, Bona, a daughter
    Chief Gutu of the Karanga tribe and Gumbo mutupo
    (totem) Masvingo Province at St. Anne’s Hospital in
    Nhkotakota, one of the oldest hospitals in Malawi. The
    large fig tree immediately in front of the hospital gate
    was the site of a meeting between David Livingstone
    and the Jumbe (chief) in 1863 to forge an agreement
    to end the slave trade in the region. The hospital
    opened in 1894. Since then it has gone through several
    cycles of expansion and contraction. Opening a nursing
    school closed previously is being considered. There are
    sections of inpatient beds which are not in use
    because of lack of patients. The hospital was once the
    region’s prime maternity and neonatal unit, including a
    midwifery school begun in 1944. Even though it is not
    as much utilized as in the past, deliveries and
    Caesarean sections continue to be a significant part of
    the hospital activity.
    Both Robert Mugabe’s parents, Matibili and Bona, were
    Roman Catholic. He was the third of six children. He
    had two older brothers, Michael (1919–34) and
    Raphael. Both his older brothers died when he was
    young, leaving Robert and his younger brother, Donato
    (1926–2007), and two younger sisters – Sabina and
    Bridgette.
    Matibili and Bona left Malawi and later moved to
    Zvimba with young Robert Gabriel, just outside Harare
    where Matibili continued to do carpentry work for the
    local missionary schools and churches. Fed up with the
    rural life of Zvimba, Mugabe’s father abandoned the
    family in 1934 after Michael died, in search of work in
    Bulawayo.

  31. Malawi seems to be blessed interms of donating leaders to other countries.Kaunda, Rupiah Banda, Lungu and Robert Mugabe all from Malawi.

  32. How many foreign president will accused of being Malawians,Kaunda,Lungu,Banda only in Zambia three presidents are being accused of being Malawian citizens Mugabe pa Zimbabwe naye akuti ndi wakwathu

  33. This is HILARIOUS. We have bunches of Undis and Kalongas here. Are they also to send back Kalonga gawa Undi? We all know he settled here first before moving on to Zambia

  34. So there it goes malawian bred leaders are dictators.What a wild flight of fantasy.People behave as if they don’t know originally we were one people these boundaries were imposed by colonialists.If chewa can be spoken from malawi to beitbridge what else do you want to prove.

  35. The British people saw this problem a long time ago and that’s why they wanted Malawi, Zambia and Zimbabwe to be one nation (Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland).

  36. Eesh, what is wrong of originating from Malawi? Few months ago you were putting up a proof that Mugabe was from Nkhotakota. So what? Let them do whatever they are doing.

  37. The Malawians naturally are intelligent and wise and has best leader. Unfortunately the Malawians themselves oppress each other, through corruption and jealousy. Some prefer to use their World Class Talents outside the country, and some prefer to keep quiet because of fear, otherwise the country would have been one of the best in the World.

    • 100% Trut & Right!
      Time is on Our Doorsteps,,,, there’s time When the Sleeping Talented of Malawian Majorities arise & Do something in their own Land” Flames”

  38. As far as we are neighbours we are related but that doesnt mean Lungu is from here,he might have those malawi roots but was born in zambia!

  39. edger might be connected ti malawi through parental system but he himself is a product of zambia.edger lungu was born here in zambia (copperbelt) he grew up here and atain his education in zambia he never leaved in malawi and nothing about about leaving in malawi above all he cant speak any malawian languanges.

  40. edger might be connected ti malawi through parental system but he himself is a product of zambia.edger lungu was born here in zambia (copperbelt)

  41. why cant u get it! we were once one country but different provinces. and when whites were done with our resources they divided us. Malawi, Zimbabwe and Zambia were under British protectorate and it had one of the best vibrant economy in Africa. I think its high time to unite and get back to where we were but this this under our own administration blacks

  42. its not de frst time malawians ruling zambian`s,kaunda does de sem & now edga lungu.it really mins dat malawians are capable of producing productive leaders in zambia. all de best #edgarlungu

  43. Original Kamuzu was killed by his GANIAN friend abroad.tinalamulidwa ndi chigewenga cha ku GANA.BAKILI, aku Mozamhique, BINGUZ zimbabwe origins,JOICE MUKHULU ee! Mozambique.tasiyana pati?

  44. Ok Zambians, I’m willing to testify in court that said gentleman is in fact from my village here in Malawi. But nothing for nothing: we’ll have to do a deal, these are difficult times. How much are you prepared to cough?

  45. Thats why malawi and zambia there is good relationship because we are real brothers and sisters, we have similar names like Phiri, Gondwe, Sibale, Banda, Lungu, chipofya, Nyirenda, Kaunda etc, we have many malawians from northern in zambia, and even some from Mchinji, so it might be possible that Edger Lungu is from malawi, but since he obtained a zambian citizenship through birth then he lose his citizenship here in malawi, and consider him as a zambian now because he was born there and he grew up there the rest is just the story!

    • It depends on the laws of Zambia as well….Not all countries have Jus Soli law meaning birth right citizenship….some countries have laws which restrict people from becoming presidents when their parents are not of the land. Such law was adopted by Chiluba when he wanted to restrict Kenneth Kaunda from becoming president i believe.

    • @Abasi, we have the Chipofyas in Rumphi, so what are u talking about? Iam a half-cast, my mother is from Rumphi and My Father is from Machinga, in my mum’s side are the Gondwes and we have chipofya and chipetas there, like I have my Aunt Anya Chipofya there.

  46. Why is he even denying it? He is a Lungu period. Zambians have Mwanawasa , Chiluba and Sata of their own. We have one untouchable of all times ruling Zimbabwe.

    • You are naughty you mean Mugabe comes from Malawi he goes to zim and becomes a dictator then there comes this Lungu character also from there becoming a hardcore dictator each passing day hahahahahahahahaha like your thinking

    • Robert Gabriel Mugabe was born to a Malawian father, Gabriel Matibili, and a Shona mother, Bona, a daughter Chief Gutu of the Karanga tribe and Gumbo mutupo (totem) Masvingo Province at St. Anne’s Hospital in Nhkotakota, one of the oldest hospitals in Malawi. The large fig tree immediately in front of the hospital gate was the site of a meeting between David Livingstone and the Jumbe (chief) in 1863 to forge an agreement to end the slave trade in the region. The hospital opened in 1894. Since then it has gone through several cycles of expansion and contraction. Opening a nursing school closed previously is being considered. There are sections of inpatient beds which are not in use because of lack of patients. The hospital was once the region’s prime maternity and neonatal unit, including a midwifery school begun in 1944. Even though it is not as much utilized as in the past, deliveries and Caesarean sections continue to be a significant part of the hospital activity. Both Robert Mugabe’s parents, Matibili and Bona, were Roman Catholic. He was the third of six children. He had two older brothers, Michael (1919–34) and Raphael. Both his older brothers died when he was young, leaving Robert and his younger brother, Donato (1926–2007), and two younger sisters – Sabina and Bridgette. Matibili and Bona left Malawi and later moved to Zvimba with young Robert Gabriel, just outside Harare where Matibili continued to do carpentry work for the local missionary schools and churches. Fed up with the rural life of Zvimba, Mugabe’s father abandoned the family in 1934 after Michael died, in search of work in Bulawayo.

  47. Kkkk one of the stratagies of ones tobecome acitizen of the country,is by birth if he was born there nomatter the parents are malawians,he himself is a zambian kkk

  48. Iam ready to imprecate EDGAR LUNGU before court.He is the citizen of warm heart of africa.the COUSEN TO MY UNCLE

  49. To say the trueth Lungu is a Malawi eastern Zambia people are Malawians eastern is full of Tumbuka, Chewa and ngoni people which origineted from Malawi thats why we say Malawi must see itsborder

    • Edgar chagwa Lungu isn’t from northern part of Malawi if he is truely malawian that means he is from central region coz he is from chipata which is bordered by mchinji.

    • The Lungu are from Northern part of malawi, we don’t have the Lungu’s in central region of malawi, those Lungus who are found in central region of malawi they orginated came from north!

    • Banda is a big Bantu clan meaning to say that it is found in almost all tribes, just like the Phiri’s…but Lungu’s are strictly tumbuka just like the Gondwe’s and the Nyirongo’s

    • What you have to understand is that Even in kasungu, nkhotakota and mchinji they borrowed tumbuka names but definitely they are not true tumbukas.Banda’s, phiri’s,and mwale’s are not tumbuka names, they are chewa’s most of these are used in northern region why?

    • @ Lucian, Banda and phiri are most common names in malawi, are usually found every where, but most of them are from Northern part of malawi, like many Bandas are found in Nkhata-bay, the ” adha Banda” in Nkhata, and most of these are tongas, but as for Lungus these are pure from Northern part of malawi!

    • We have the likes of ” O banda, O phiri, O Gama etc” in central region of malawi, but the name ” Lungu” is pure from Northern part of malawi, and these Lungus can be found in kasungu in central region who also came from north, beause many tumbukas are also found in kasungu Nkhamenya, we have chirwas and Lungus in Kasungu who just went there!

    • If he was born in Zambia then he is Zambian it doesn’t matter where his parents or name is from..

      With that being said, why argue about which name is from which side. These days that not a big deal.

      • Don’t mislead people Harold..Banda is not a Tonga name. This is purely chewa name alongside phiri, mwale, mbewe, nkhoma and others..Tonga names are manda, mhone, ngwira and others..Bandas, phiris, and mwales are found in Nkhatabay because there are also chewas there. Infact, all traditional leaders in Nkhatabay are chewa like Fukamapiri, kabunduli, fukamalaza, malengamzoma, malanda.. If you go to areas under Kalonga Gawa Undi in Eastern Zambia, you will meet bandas, phiris, mwales, nkhomas because they are chewa whilst if you go to southern Zambia where tongas are, you will not find names such as bandas, phiris. They have tonga names there such as HIchirema.. Please Harold, read history again..

    • Lungu is predominantly a northern region name with ofcourse certain traces in Kasungu but even then they are a fluck from Mzimba and Rumphi.

    • Lungu’s are ngoni’s that’s true fact, most of names which are used north are not tumbuka’s. You will find Lungu’s in mchinji.

    • Mind you there Tumbukas and Chewas in Zambia in the eastern region of Zambia, better keep quiet than comment on something you are not sure about.

    • #Frank, there are lots of tumbukas in Zambia. Especially in Eastern Province e.g Lundadzi district its tumbuka only. The Nyanjas and Bembas are just the visitors in Lundadzi. If you go there you will feel like you are in Mzimba. Its Tumbuka Everywhere and Lots of Lungus as well in Lundadzi. So I think Lungu originally is a Malawian.

      • its not true that Lundazi is all Tumbuka.. Lundazi has Chewas also whom in Zambia, they are called Nyanja..Infact, most of the traditional leaders there are chewa, subjects of Kalonga Gawa Undi..Leaders such as Mwase Lundazi, mwase mphangwe, kapichira, zumwanda and others..Read history please..

    • You are the one who is suffering ignorance syndrome by using names without understand where it originated from…. History says tumbuka’s started using names like mwale’s, phiri’s and Banda’s 60 years ago in order to dominate universities and officers when Kamuzu kicked them from central region and Southern region.

    • Look at Baraka Obama was president in America he was born there but parents from Africa SO WHAT?????? Leave Lungu to rule the zambiaans as long as he is good…….

    • Future’e Abubukar Mdeza, I can see that you so confused with tribal names. The fact that we have the Banda, Phiri, Mwale, Chirwa, Mwenda and many other names in The Northern region, does not make people of such names, tumbukas. They are the chewa names, and for your information, the majority of the population of people in Nkhatabay is comprised of the Chewa people. 13 T/As in Nkhatabay are Chewa chiefs.
      There is a good population of chewa people in Mzimba. Lead the history of Mberwa and Mwase of Kasungu and learn how The chewa were incorporated in Mzimba kingdom.

    • Edgar chagwa Lungu and rupiah bwezan Banda are both from chipata which is boarded by mchinji how come to be from north of Malawi?

  50. Zambia has always been ruled by Malawians. Starting from Kaunda, Bwezani Banda and now Lungu….does it Mean that the Zambian system is easily penetrative?

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